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Marty R.



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 7:52 pm    Post subject: Sudopedia Reply with quote

I'm getting a blank page when going there. Are others getting the same thing?

However, a Glossary, Solving guide and other stuff can be accessed from Sudocue.net, which I'm not sure if it's the same information on Sudopedia.
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keith



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 11:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I also get a blank page.

I do have a copy of the entire site which I made after the last time it disappeared.

Keith
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daj95376



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sudopedia Main Page wrote:
Note: Due to a server crash this wiki was not available for some time. The database has been recovered, but unfortunately the images are lost. Upload new images if you have them.
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ronk



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

keith, does your "copy of the entire site" include images? If so, and if you can "split out" some of your copy, I can help reload images.
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keith



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ronk,

This is at the limits of my knowledge. I will have to hunt around for the Sudopedia copy. As I recall, the copy ran for days, and I landed up with many GB of stuff.

I imagine I have the images, unless they were hosted at a site external to sudopedia, like image shack.

I'll check what I have this weekend. I am prepared to put it all on a DVD and mail it to anyone.

Best wishes,

Keith
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keith



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have the whole thing, images and all, as of last May 5 - 15.

Keith
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ronk



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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2012 11:17 pm    Post subject: spambot attacks of sudopedia Reply with quote

Take a look at Recent Changes on sudopedia.org. As of this writing, almost all of the last 500 changes (over less than 2 days) are spam, presumably due to spam bots. Sad
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enxio27



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keith, how could I go about getting that DVD from you?
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keith



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will be quite happy for someone to look at my machine using Skype to see if we can copy the image of Sudopedia that I have.

I did send ronk a partial copy of what I have. I do not know how useful he found it to be.

Otherwise, take a look at the Wayback Machine. They have copies of sudopedia.org going back to 2006.

Keith
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Pat



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



    one good thing about the "wiki" system ( including SuDoPedia ) --
    history is retained, all earlier versions are available !

    so, when you need a good version of any one article,
    you can just "View history" and pick a version from before the spam


    e.g. the Main Page --
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keith



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 4:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pat wrote:


    one good thing about the "wiki" system ( including SuDoPedia ) --
    history is retained, all earlier versions are available !

    so, when you need a good version of any one article,
    you can just "View history" and pick a version from before the spam


    e.g. the Main Page --


Pat,

So anyone should be able to copy the Sudopedia site as it stands, and then restore it to its former glory in another place?

The spammers only trashed the current pages, not the wiki site itself?

Keith
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ronk



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

keith wrote:
I did send ronk a partial copy of what I have. I do not know how useful he found it to be.

The goal was to upload lost images,but I never figured out how to upload even one. I think there's something broken there too. Besides, at least one bot is continually spamming sudopedia, so it's just a matter of time before it crashes again IMO. Until that is fixed, any effort to upload images would likely be wasted. That's a big de-motivator. Sad
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enxio27



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ronk wrote:
Besides, at least one bot is continually spamming sudopedia, so it's just a matter of time before it crashes again IMO. Until that is fixed, any effort to upload images would likely be wasted. That's a big de-motivator. Sad

Crud! Sad
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Pat



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

keith wrote:
Pat wrote:
history is retained, all earlier versions are available

So anyone should be able to copy the Sudopedia site as it stands,
and then restore it to its former glory in another place?

The spammers only trashed the current pages, not the wiki site itself?

my comment was about any one article

if they're only spamming the Main Page — easy to fix

otherwise,
we'll need to go page-by-page and identify the last good version


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lost images are a separate issue

      SuDoPedia wrote:

        a server crash——

        The database has been recovered,
        but unfortunately the images are lost.

ronk wrote:
The goal was to upload lost images,
but I never figured out how to upload even one.
I think there's something broken there too.

should i infer that keith's snapshot
does contain the images ?
    keith (2011.May.15) wrote:

    I appear to have EVERYTHING.---I have a fully functioning copy of Wikipedia on my hard drive.

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keith



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 11:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pat wrote:
should i infer that keith's snapshot
does contain the images ?
    keith (2011.May.15) wrote:

    I appear to have EVERYTHING.---I have a fully functioning copy of Wikipedia on my hard drive.



Yes,

It appears I have the images.

Keith
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Pat



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 6:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote


    after the Server crash,
    Ruud did restore most of the SuDoPedia —
    but did not restore the images
    this has left the SuDoPedia in an inconsistent state
      e.g. www.sudopedia.org/index.php/File:Sensei.png — exists, with all the history, description, etc;
      but the image itself — www.sudopedia.org/images/Sensei.png — is missing

    keith wrote:
    I have the images

    so, the best fix is to send them (images/*.*) to Ruud
    — he can upload the whole thing directly into the Server
    (back door, with the Owner's password)


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    unkx80 has restored the Main Page —this lasted less than 8 hours
    until the next spam


    Pat wrote:
    if they're only spamming the Main Page——
    but there is some more spam on other pages
    (just now i noticed spam on ronk's page)


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keith



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sensei Image:

Sensei.png



[IMG=http://www.image-share.com/upload/1632/110.png]

http://www.image-share.com/ipng-1632-110.html

Keith
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enxio27



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 3:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pat wrote:
Ruud (19:58, 22 February 2012)

I seriously doubt that Ruud's comment is that recent. As I recall, I found reason to believe that his comment was posted much earlier, like about five years ago. Sad

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so, the best fix is to send them (images/*.*) to Ruud
— he can upload the whole thing directly into the Server

Ruud has responded to NOTHING in 4.5 years. I don't think that sending the images to him will do any good whatsoever. Evil or Very Mad

Unfortunately, I think that the best course of action is to give up Sudopedia.org for lost, and for someone here (keith?) to recreate it in its former glory on another server.
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ronk



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 6:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

enxio27 wrote:
Pat wrote:
Ruud (19:58, 22 February 2012)

I seriously doubt that Ruud's comment is that recent. As I recall, I found reason to believe that his comment was posted much earlier, like about five years ago. Sad

I believe tarek who here wrote "Ruud has made a quick cameo after more than 4 years as well."

IMO the most effective thing Ruud could do now is to give someone else unrestricted administrative privileges.
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keith



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

enxio27 wrote:
Pat wrote:
Ruud (19:58, 22 February 2012)

I seriously doubt that Ruud's comment is that recent. As I recall, I found reason to believe that his comment was posted much earlier, like about five years ago. Sad

Quote:
so, the best fix is to send them (images/*.*) to Ruud
— he can upload the whole thing directly into the Server

Ruud has responded to NOTHING in 4.5 years. I don't think that sending the images to him will do any good whatsoever. Evil or Very Mad

Unfortunately, I think that the best course of action is to give up Sudopedia.org for lost, and for someone here (keith?) to recreate it in its former glory on another server.

That would not be me. I do not have the skills.

I can't even figure our how to copy the files I do have!

If Pat is correct, maybe someone else should attempt to make a copy of Sudopedia, and try to get all the history. Maybe the Wiki rollback feature will indeed work.

Best wishes,

Keith
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