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		| immpy 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2021 6:06 pm    Post subject: VH+ 102521 |   |  
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				| Hello all, enjoy the puzzle... 
 
  	  | Code: |  	  | +-------+-------+-------+
 | 4 9 1 | . 2 . | . . . |
 | . . . | 7 . . | . . 1 |
 | . . . | . 5 . | 4 . . |
 +-------+-------+-------+
 | 5 . . | . 7 3 | 8 . 2 |
 | 2 . . | . . . | . . 3 |
 | 3 1 4 | 6 8 . | . . 7 |
 +-------+-------+-------+
 | . . 5 | . 4 . | . . . |
 | 7 . . | . . 5 | . . . |
 | . . . | . 3 . | 2 5 4 |
 +-------+-------+-------+
 
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 Play this puzzle online at the Daily Sudoku site
 
 cheers...immp
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		| Mogulmeister 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 9:51 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| After basics. 
 
  	  | Code: |  	  | +--------------+----------------+----------------+ | 4   9   1    | 38   2   68    | 37   3678 5    |
 | 68  5   23   | 7    69  4     | 39   2368 1    |
 | 68  23  7    | 1389 5   1689  | 4    2368 689  |
 +--------------+----------------+----------------+
 | 5   6   9    | 4    7   3     | 8    1    2    |
 | 2   7   8    | 5    19  19    | 6    4    3    |
 | 3   1   4    | 6    8   2     | 5    9    7    |
 +--------------+----------------+----------------+
 | 19  23  5    | 1289 4   1689  | 1379 3678 689  |
 | 7   4   23   | 1289 169 5     | 139  368  689  |
 | 19  8   6    | 19   3   7     | 2    5    4    |
 +--------------+----------------+----------------+
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 Thanks Immp!
 
 I was tinkering with this and made a discovery.
 
 If r2c7 = 3 then r2c3 =2 and puzzle solved. (four <23> chained together like a "spine")
 
 -OR-
 
 If r2c7 = 9 then stte and puzzle solved.(r2c3 = 2)
 
 Whichever you choose for r2c7 we have a winner!
 
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		| Clement 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 1:37 pm    Post subject: VH + 102521 |   |  
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				|  	  | Code: |  	  | +------------------+-----------------------+-----------------------+
 | 4      9      1  | 38       2       68   | 37       3678     5   |
 | 68     5     c23 | 7        69      4    |c39       2368     1   |
 | 68     23     7  | 1389     5       1689 | 4        2368     68-9|
 +------------------+-----------------------+-----------------------+
 | 5      6      9  | 4        7       3    | 8        1        2   |
 | 2      7      8  | 5        19      19   | 6        4        3   |
 | 3      1      4  | 6        8       2    | 5        9        7   |
 +------------------+-----------------------+-----------------------+
 | 19     23     5  | 1289     4       1689 | 1379     3678    a689 |
 | 7      4     b23 | 1289     169     5    | 139     a368     a689 |
 | 19     8      6  | 19       3       7    | 2        5        4   |
 +------------------+-----------------------+-----------------------+
 
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 (9=6|83)b9p365 – (3=2)r8c3 – (2=39)r2c37 => - 9r3c9; stte
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		| Mogulmeister 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 2:22 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Another contradiction. 
 Using Clement's annotated grid we can also start in a different place (c)r2c7.
 
 c(3-9)r2c7=(9-68)r3c9=a(68-9)r78c9=a(3-68)r8c8-b(3=2)r8c3-(2=3)r2c3-c(3=9)r2c7
 
 Remove 9 in r2c7 and the loop contradicts it and puts the 9 back into r2c7.
 
 R2c7 = 9.
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		| TomC 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 5:44 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| I used pincers on 3 in r1c4 and r2c7 to give -3 in r1c78 this sets r1c7 and r7c8 to 7
 and this means -3 in r8c8 using the <23> in c3 otherwise no 3's in box 3
 so r2c7=9
 
 Bit of a scenic route here!
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		| Mogulmeister 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2021 9:02 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Nice wing at the start there Tom to set the contradiction rolling. |  | 
	
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		| dongrave 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2021 1:25 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Nice solutions you guys! |  | 
	
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