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oaxen



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:42 am    Post subject: Menneske Reply with quote

It seems to me as this site slowly is dying because there are not so many interesting puzzles which can be pasted in and disussed about. I do not have the knowledges to copy/paste, but some of you do, so why not somebody restart and here publish the impossible ones from Menneske, because about them and solving technics it is a lot say.
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Lars
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Marty R.



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
I do not have the knowledges to copy/paste,


Lars,

Do you not know how to copy and paste in general or do you just not know how to copy and paste puzzles in here?
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oaxen



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marty R. wrote:
Quote:
I do not have the knowledges to copy/paste,


Lars,

Do you not know how to copy and paste in general or do you just not know how to copy and paste puzzles in here?


Just how to transfer puzzles from one site to another. With ctrl/c and ctrl/v I am quite familiar Sad
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keith



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oaxen wrote:
Marty R. wrote:
Quote:
I do not have the knowledges to copy/paste,


Lars,

Do you not know how to copy and paste in general or do you just not know how to copy and paste puzzles in here?


Just how to transfer puzzles from one site to another. With ctrl/c and ctrl/v I am quite familiar Sad


Go to Menneske.com.

Drag your mouse (left click) to highlight the puzzle. Press Ctrl+c.

Go here: http://nataraj.0catch.com/fmtsudoku.htm
(Bookmark this page.)

Click your cursor in the blue box, then press Ctrl+v. Click "Format".
(Some of the time this site does not work. If there is a problem you will see a button named "Import" rather than "Format". Come back later.)

You are now at Draw/Play at the Daily Sudoku site, with the Menneske puzzle loaded. Click "ASCII". Click in the popup window, and select Ctrl+c.

Go to the Sudoku discussion page (here), and start a new message. Click Ctrl+v and the puzzle is pasted in the message.

This is explained here, but I am sure it should be updated:

http://www.dailysudoku.com/sudoku/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2888

Keith
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Luke451



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Many of this site's regulars are now spending more time at Players'.

http://forum.enjoysudoku.com/
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keith



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Luke451 wrote:
Many of this site's regulars are now spending more time at Players'.

http://forum.enjoysudoku.com/


Where they use this site's capabilities to post their puzzles. Go figure.

Keith
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Luke451



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 4:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not that hard to figure. Daily crashed for a while, players moved to Players' in the interim. Now that Daily's back up, Players' has caught on.

The history of sudoku boards is a rather tragic one. Players' has a huge gash in the middle of its history, and Eureka seems to be gone forever. When events occur, the small surviving community will find the islands.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 3:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AMEN Sad

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oaxen



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No. I was not succesful to transfer puzzles from Menneske. But some of you are, so please copy the impossibles. Of course I myself can use the Menneske site, but it is more fun to do it here and to read the comments from everybody. And normally they are really hard, so all help will be appreciated
lars
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Pat



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

keith wrote:

    Go to Menneske
    Drag your mouse to highlight the puzzle.
    Press Ctrl+C.

    Go to Nataraj's Sudoku Formatting Tool (Bookmark this page.)
    Click your cursor in the blue box,
    then press Ctrl+V.
    Click "Format".
      (Some of the time this site does not work.
      If there is a problem you will see a button named "Import" rather than "Format".
      Come back later.)

in the Menneske puzzle,
empty cells are apparently really empty (no dots),
and i can't get Nataraj's software to see them
(it responds "Puzzle has less than 81 cells").


the workaround was somewhat clumsy
  • at Menneske, use menu -- View Source
      (or whatever your web-browser calls it:
      to see the HTML)

  • find the 9 rows of the puzzle
      each starts with tr class="grid"

  • copy them all to NotePad

  • replace all   --> dot

  • the result can be pasted into Nataraj's software
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keith



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pat,

It works fine for me. I use a PC.

At Menneske, try clicking the "print" link and copy the puzzle from there.

Nataraj' site is a little buggy: You must have a "Format" option. If you have an "Import" button it will not work.

Keith

Edit: I use Mozilla Firefox.


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Marty R.



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It works for me either with the print version or the pre-print version.
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Pat



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote


    sorry, i'm on Internet Explorer
    and i have the problem either way (before Print and after)
looking back now on my workaround
i see it can be greatly simplified,
HTML not needed
  • paste the puzzle into your text editor (e.g. NotePad)

  • replace all double-space --> dot

  • the result can be pasted into Nataraj's software
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keith



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 11:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pat wrote:

    sorry, i'm on Internet Explorer
    and i have the problem either way (before Print and after)
looking back now on my workaround
i see it can be greatly simplified,
HTML not needed
  • paste the puzzle into your text editor (e.g. NotePad)

  • replace all double-space --> dot

  • the result can be pasted into Nataraj's software

Pat,

I don't know why you have a problem. Way back when, Nataraj spent a lot of time getting Menneske cut&paste to work. As I recall, he was pretty upset that I asked for it.

So far as I (and Marty) can see, it still works well.

If you want to do a screen sharing session to resolve your issue, send me a PM.

I can do Skype or GoToMeeting.

Keith
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Pat



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 9:14 am    Post subject: re: Menneske-to-Nataraj (on Internet Explorer) Reply with quote

Pat wrote:

  • paste from Menneske
    into your text editor (e.g. NotePad)

  • replace all double-space --> dot (or space-dot)

  • the result can be pasted into Nataraj's software

or (found this in the other discussion)
Pat (2011.Oct.28) wrote:

  • paste from Menneske
    into Excel

  • copy from Excel

  • paste this into Nataraj's software
    ( Excel provides the tabs )
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