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		arkietech
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 5:35 am    Post subject: au tough 5/22/12 | 
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 |19.|...|35.|
 
 |6..|.7.|.8.|
 
 |...|4..|...|
 
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 |.61|...|...|
 
 |3..|.5.|..8|
 
 |...|...|61.|
 
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 |...|..9|...|
 
 |.7.|.2.|..5|
 
 |.59|...|.23|
 
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		SudoQ
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 9:57 am    Post subject:  | 
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				Nice puzzle!
 
  	  | Code: | 	 		  r1c3=7 ->          ->
 
r1c9=7 -> r5c7/8=7 -> r5c3<>7 | 	  /SudoQ | 
			 
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		arkietech
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 11:29 am    Post subject:  | 
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 | 1      9      4-7    | 268    68     268    | 3      5     *47     |
 
 | 6      234    245    | 139    7      135    | 24     8      19     |
 
 | 57     238    2578   | 4      139    135    | 27     6      19     |
 
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 | 79     6      1      | 2789   489    2478   | 5      3     *247    |
 
 | 3      24    *247    | 16     5      16     |*479   *479    8      |
 
 | 579    48     4578   | 2379   349    2347   | 6      1     *247    |
 
 |----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
 
 | 2      1      3      | 5      48     9      | 478    47     6      |
 
 | 48     7      6      | 138    2      1348   | 1489   49     5      |
 
 | 48     5      9      | 1678   1468   14678  | 148    2      3      |
 
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Box kite??
 
(7)r1c9=r46c9-r5c78=(7)r5c3 => r1c3<>7; lclste
 
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		SudoQ
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 11:48 am    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | arkietech wrote: | 	 		  | Box kite?? | 	  
 
I have seen the name "Empty Rectangle". 
 
This can eliminated 4 or 7 from cell r5c3.
 
But with your solution the puzzle is completed easier!
 
 
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		tlanglet
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 12:54 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				"7s" were the key to solving this puzzle in a standard manner. After doing so, I looked for some fun, long solutions. Here are two that use some of the same logic as already posted......
 
 
axy-wing(57-2)r3c1+r2c3/r3c7=(4)r2c3-(4=7)r1c3-(7=5)r3c1-(5=79)r64c1-(7=24)r5c32-(4)r5c78=r46c9-(4=7)r1c9-(7=2)r3c7; r2c7,r3c23<>2
 
 
almost SdC(24578)r123c3
 
ab=(24)r5c3
 
cd(57)r3c1
 
e=(8)r3c3
 
fin (7)r5c3 
 
almost SdC(24578)r123c3=(7)r5c3-r5c78=r46c9-r1c9=r1c3 => conflict; r5c3<>7
 
Thus SdC is true; r6c3<>4, r3c2,r6c3<>8
 
 
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		arkietech
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 1:38 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | tlanglet wrote: | 	 		  axy-wing(57-2)r3c1+r2c3/r3c7=(4)r2c3-(4=7)r1c3-(7=5)r3c1-(5=79)r64c1-(7=24)r5c32-(4)r5c78=r46c9-(4=7)r1c9-(7=2)r3c7; r2c7,r3c23<>2
 
 
almost SdC(24578)r123c3
 
ab=(24)r5c3
 
cd(57)r3c1
 
e=(8)r3c3
 
fin (7)r5c3 
 
almost SdC(24578)r123c3=(7)r5c3-r5c78=r46c9-r1c9=r1c3 => conflict; r5c3<>7
 
Thus SdC is true; r6c3<>4, r3c2,r6c3<>8
 
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Thanks Ted.
 
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		Marty R.
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 4:54 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | arkietech wrote: | 	 		   	  | Code: | 	 		  
 
 *--------------------------------------------------------------------*
 
 | 1      9      4-7    | 268    68     268    | 3      5     *47     |
 
 | 6      234    245    | 139    7      135    | 24     8      19     |
 
 | 57     238    2578   | 4      139    135    | 27     6      19     |
 
 |----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
 
 | 79     6      1      | 2789   489    2478   | 5      3     *247    |
 
 | 3      24    *247    | 16     5      16     |*479   *479    8      |
 
 | 579    48     4578   | 2379   349    2347   | 6      1     *247    |
 
 |----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
 
 | 2      1      3      | 5      48     9      | 478    47     6      |
 
 | 48     7      6      | 138    2      1348   | 1489   49     5      |
 
 | 48     5      9      | 1678   1468   14678  | 148    2      3      |
 
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Box kite??
 
(7)r1c9=r46c9-r5c78=(7)r5c3 => r1c3<>7; lclste
 
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I've never heard of a Box Kite, but the Sashimi X-Wing in r15 sets r46c9<>7. | 
			 
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		arkietech
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 5:20 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | Marty R. wrote: | 	 		  | I've never heard of a Box Kite | 	  
 
I haven't either but that is what it is-- box 6 with two strings.   | 
			 
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		Marty R.
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 5:56 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | arkietech wrote: | 	 		   	  | Marty R. wrote: | 	 		  | I've never heard of a Box Kite | 	  
 
I haven't either but that is what it is-- box 6 with two strings.   | 	  
 
 
Just for the sake of discussion, what's the difference between a Kite and Box Kite since all Kites emanate from a box? Box Kite seems to be a redundancy. Maybe a more appropriate name would be Grouped Kite. But whatever it's called, it's very nice and not something I would've spotted. | 
			 
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		arkietech
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 6:57 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | Marty R. wrote: | 	 		  | Just for the sake of discussion, what's the difference between a Kite and Box Kite since all Kites emanate from a box? Box Kite seems to be a redundancy. Maybe a more appropriate name would be Grouped Kite. But whatever it's called, it's very nice and not something I would've spotted. | 	  
 
I don't know -- it just came to me, I remember fllying box kites as a kid. Don't see them anymore. Call it a boy remembering== nothing more.
 
 
It is a grouped discontinous loop to many. | 
			 
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