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		roaa
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 7:39 am    Post subject: Jan 18 VH | 
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				Where is Clement?
 
The xy-wing 169 with pivot at r2c9 solved it for me. | 
			 
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		Rocky Mozell
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 3:38 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				| I had a skyscraper on 9 in boxes 2 and 3. | 
			 
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		Marty R.
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 5:43 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | Rocky Mozell wrote: | 	 		  | I had a skyscraper on 9 in boxes 2 and 3. | 	  
 
Rocky, I wasn't able to get rid of the 9 in r1c1.
 
 
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+-------------+---------+-----------+
 
| 459 45  8   | 3  1 69 | 7  2  569 |
 
| 6   3   19  | 2  5 7  | 48 48 19  |
 
| 125 57  127 | 8  4 69 | 69 15 3   |
 
+-------------+---------+-----------+
 
| 7   2   6   | 5  9 18 | 3  18 4   |
 
| 14  8   14  | 7  6 3  | 5  9  2   |
 
| 3   9   5   | 4  2 18 | 68 7  16  |
 
+-------------+---------+-----------+
 
| 249 46  249 | 69 8 5  | 1  3  7   |
 
| 59  567 79  | 1  3 2  | 49 46 8   |
 
| 8   1   3   | 69 7 4  | 2  56 59  |
 
+-------------+---------+-----------+
 
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Play this puzzle online at the Daily Sudoku site | 
			 
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		eddieg
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 8:27 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				From above sample, see the 69 and 19 in Box 3, and the 16 in Box 6.  Makes an easy XYZ-Wing that eliminates the 6 in R6C7, and then the rest falls into place.  
 
 
I don't even know what a skycrapper is. I am able (sometimes it takes a while) to finish all of the VH puzzles with basic moves. | 
			 
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		Luke451
 
 
  Joined: 20 Apr 2008 Posts: 310 Location: Southern Northern California
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				 Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:07 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | eddieg wrote: | 	 		  | From above sample, see the 69 and 19 in Box 3, and the 16 in Box 6.  Makes an easy XYZ-Wing that eliminates the 6 in R6C7, and then the rest falls into place.   | 	 
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| 459 45  8   | 3  1 69 | 7  2  569 | 
 
| 6   3   19  | 2  5 7  | 48 48 19  | 
 
| 125 57  127 | 8  4 69 | 69 15 3   | 
 
+-------------+---------+-----------+ 
 
| 7   2   6   | 5  9 18 | 3  18 4   | 
 
| 14  8   14  | 7  6 3  | 5  9  2   | 
 
| 3   9   5   | 4  2 18 | 68 7  16  | 
 
+-------------+---------+-----------+ 
 
| 249 46  249 | 69 8 5  | 1  3  7   | 
 
| 59  567 79  | 1  3 2  | 49 46 8   | 
 
| 8   1   3   | 69 7 4  | 2  56 59  | 
 
+-------------+---------+-----------+ 
 
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Good spot, that does it. I don't think it's called an xyz-wing unless all three digits appear in that central pivot cell.
 
 
That there is an xy-wing, shortest possible xy-chain.
 
 
 	  | Quote: | 	 		  |  I don't even know what a skycrapper is.  | 	  
 
A skyscraper ( only one "p"   ) is a single digit technique using the same basic notion as your xy-wing. Click  here  for the Sudopedia article. | 
			 
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		Rocky Mozell
 
 
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				 Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 3:17 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				Rocky, I wasn't able to get rid of the 9 in r1c1. 
 
 
Neither was I. What a dope. | 
			 
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		TerenceF
 
 
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				 Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 12:14 am    Post subject:  | 
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				Similarly there is a 159 XY wing pivoted at r9c9 (using the 19 and 15 in Box 3) which can be used to eliminate the 5 from r9c8
 
 
Apologies if the technical wording is wrong, I'm only an occasional... | 
			 
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		Marty R.
 
 
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				 Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 12:49 am    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | TerenceF wrote: | 	 		  Similarly there is a 159 XY wing pivoted at r9c9 (using the 19 and 15 in Box 3) which can be used to eliminate the 5 from r9c8
 
 
Apologies if the technical wording is wrong, I'm only an occasional... | 	  
 
Terence, the pivot is the 19 cell in r2c9 since that is the cell that sees the other two cells. | 
			 
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