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daj95376



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 6:05 am    Post subject: Sudopedia Reply with quote

For those who haven't tried to access Sudopedia lately, it's been down for several days and there doesn't seem to be any communication available to those hosting the website/server.
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keith



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 7:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Danny,

That's too bad.

Maybe someone has a copy of the content and it can be put into Wikipedia?

Keith
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Pat



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 10:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

if it had anything of value --
now is the time to catch it in the Google cache
(will soon vanish)
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pat found a possible phone number, but it is invalid.

I found Ruud van der Werf on LinkedIn, and have sent a request to connect.

We shall see.

edit: I found a list of six Sudoku forums that Ruud say he is a member of. Four of those are dead. Only this site (Daily Sudoku) and Sudoku Programmers are still running.


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daj95376



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He's also a member of EnjoySudoku ... the reincarnation of another defunct forum. Many of his entries are present, but he hasn't been active in a long time.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's a snapshot of the site in the Wayback Machine from April 09. All the links I tried seemed to work. Not sure how easy it is to re-construct from this copy..
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JasonLion



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ruud never claimed his old account on the New Sudoku Players Forum.
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Pat



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 6:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://sudoPedia.Org is back !
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keith



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PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2011 1:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pat wrote:
http://sudoPedia.Org is back !
Pat,

That is good news. Do you have any idea what happened?

I see that it is still hosted at Ruud's mostly dead site, and they are still not asking for donations.

Keith
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Pat



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PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2011 8:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote


    sorry, no idea what happened

      and yes, SuDoCue.Net has some problem
      = their Forum is gone
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PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2011 8:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pat,

As we speak, I am making a copy of Sudopedia. At 1h45m, 160 MB, and counting. I am about to leave town for three days. We will see what I have when I get back on Wednesday morning.

Keith
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Pat



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PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2011 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

keith wrote:

I am making a copy of Sudopedia

i assume you're recursively following all links

i.e. including all versions of history
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PostPosted: Fri May 06, 2011 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pat wrote:
keith wrote:

I am making a copy of Sudopedia

i assume you're recursively following all links

i.e. including all versions of history

Pat,

I am only dimly aware of what I did. I used HTTrack to mirror the Sudopedia site on to my hard drive. It took a couple of days, but it did complete. I now have a copy that seems to work fine. It is about 1.33 GB. I plan to put it on a thumb drive and / or DVD for safekeeping.

Keith
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Pat



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PostPosted: Sun May 08, 2011 7:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

keith wrote:
I used HTTrack to mirror the Sudopedia site on to my hard drive.
I now have a copy that seems to work fine.
It is about 1.33 GB.

say you visit sudopedia.org/wiki/Hidden_Subset
  • you could save an HTML snapshot
  • or (better) click the "edit" link
    and save the contents of the edit-box (in wikiMedia language)
  • if you used a crawler which followed all links
    then you may have saved both ??
there's also a "history" link --
so, if you followed all links, you also got 11 versions (full history) of the article.
(they save a separate version even if only 1 character was changed.)
this explains the huge size.

and if you followed the "discussion" link,
then you also got the associated discussion ( sudopedia.org/wiki/Talk:Hidden_Subset ) etc


for each article (and for each associated discussion)
you have (presumably) 2 copies of each historical version --
the 2nd copy is the one obtained via the "edit" link,
where the textarea (edit-box) contains the source (in wikiMedia language).
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PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2011 1:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pat,

I appear to have EVERYTHING. I can look at the edit page, I can see eleven versions of the history.

Even better, I can update my mirror copy by running the software again. So, I have a fully functioning copy of Wikipedia on my hard drive.

EXCEPT: I cannot copy it to a DVD or to a flash drive. Windows copy fails, possibly because of "illegal" characters in file names. I suppose I could try to use the same software to mirror my copy to another drive.

My advice? Make your own mirror. I used WinHT. It ran for a few days, and I have a very high speed internet connection. (Actually, the software limits itself so as to not bog down your connection or the site being copied. Pretty cool stuff.)

Keith
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