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tlanglet



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 3:55 pm    Post subject: Simple Sudoku Issue Reply with quote

I copied/pasted the code after basics from this forum into Simple Sudoku and saved it. However when I retrieved it later, additional digits had been added to some cells, I could not determine any pattern for what digits were added to what cells. This does not seem to be a problem for the initial code prior to basics.

Has anyone else noticed this situation or have some insight into what is happening? I even re-installed the program but no change.

Ted
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daj95376



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 4:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Simple Sudoku Issue Reply with quote

tlanglet wrote:
I copied/pasted the code after basics from this forum into Simple Sudoku and saved it. However when I retrieved it later, additional digits had been added to some cells, I could not determine any pattern for what digits were added to what cells. This does not seem to be a problem for the initial code prior to basics.

Has anyone else noticed this situation or have some insight into what is happening? I even re-installed the program but no change.

Yes, there is a problem in loading and saving a PM with Simple Sudoku because it only saves the solved cells and any eliminations that occur since it was started. An example:

Code:
 original PM
 +--------------------------------------------------------------+
 |  2     8     1     |  9     5     6     |  7     3     4     |
 |  4     3     7     |  28    1     28    |  6     9     5     |
 |  9     6     5     |  7     34    34    |  2     8     1     |
 |--------------------+--------------------+--------------------|
 |  6     245   8     |  2345  7     2359  |  359   1     39    |
 |  35    1     239   |  6     8     2359  |  359   4     7     |
 |  7     45    39    |  45    39    1     |  8     2     6     |
 |--------------------+--------------------+--------------------|
 |  1     7     23    |  35    239   359   |  4     6     8     |
 |  58    25    6     |  1     24    48    |  39    7     39    |
 |  38    9     4     |  38    6     7     |  1     5     2     |
 +--------------------------------------------------------------+
 # 41 eliminations remain

Code:
 saved by Simple Sudoku
 *-----------*
 |281|956|734|
 |437|.1.|695|
 |965|7..|281|
 |---+---+---|
 |6.8|.7.|.1.|
 |.1.|68.|.47|
 |7..|..1|826|
 |---+---+---|
 |17.|...|468|
 |..6|1..|.7.|
 |.94|.67|152|
 *-----------*

Code:
 after reloading with Simple Sudoku: r4c6 contains <4> as a sample problem
 *-----------------------------------------------------------------------------*
 | 2       8       1       | 9       5       6       | 7       3       4       |
 | 4       3       7       | 28      1       28      | 6       9       5       |
 | 9       6       5       | 7       34      34      | 2       8       1       |
 |-------------------------+-------------------------+-------------------------|
 | 6       245     8       | 2345    7       23459   | 359     1       39      |
 | 35      1       239     | 6       8       2359    | 359     4       7       |
 | 7       45      39      | 345     349     1       | 8       2       6       |
 |-------------------------+-------------------------+-------------------------|
 | 1       7       23      | 235     239     2359    | 4       6       8       |
 | 358     25      6       | 1       2349    234589  | 39      7       39      |
 | 38      9       4       | 38      6       7       | 1       5       2       |
 *-----------------------------------------------------------------------------*

Quite awhile back, I wrote a (Windows command line) program that takes a PM and makes a .ss file so it can be reloaded correctly by Simple Sudoku. ronk and others have used it. They still may. Here's the output from my program for the original PM ...

Code:
*-----------------------*
| 2 8 1 | 9 5 6 | 7 3 4 |
| 4 3 7 | . 1 . | 6 9 5 |
| 9 6 5 | 7 . . | 2 8 1 |
|-------+-------+-------|
| 6 . 8 | . 7 . | . 1 . |
| . 1 . | 6 8 . | . 4 7 |
| 7 . . | . . 1 | 8 2 6 |
|-------+-------+-------|
| 1 7 . | . . . | 4 6 8 |
| . . 6 | 1 . . | . 7 . |
| . 9 4 | . 6 7 | 1 5 2 |
*-----------------------*

E32004
E48003
E49004
E57002
E59002
E63003
E670039
E68002359
I802

... and the PM presented by Simple Sudoku after loading from my .ss file.

Code:
 *-----------------------------------------------------------*
 | 2     8     1     | 9     5     6     | 7     3     4     |
 | 4     3     7     | 28    1     28    | 6     9     5     |
 | 9     6     5     | 7     34    34    | 2     8     1     |
 |-------------------+-------------------+-------------------|
 | 6     245   8     | 2345  7     2359  | 359   1     39    |
 | 35    1     239   | 6     8     2359  | 359   4     7     |
 | 7     45    39    | 45    39    1     | 8     2     6     |
 |-------------------+-------------------+-------------------|
 | 1     7     23    | 35    239   359   | 4     6     8     |
 | 58    25    6     | 1     24    48    | 39    7     39    |
 | 38    9     4     | 38    6     7     | 1     5     2     |
 *-----------------------------------------------------------*

An easy workaround to a program like mine is to load the original puzzle into Simple Sudoku and use it to solve through basics. Then you can save it off as Basics.ss. Any additional eliminations you perform can then be saved into and reloaded from a file named Working.ss. You can always reload Basics.ss if you want to pursue an alternate path after basics. The problem I have is that I accidentally write over Basics.ss with working information! _ Sad _

Regards, Danny
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Pat



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 11:19 am    Post subject: re: Simple Sudoku Issue Reply with quote

tlanglet wrote:

I copied/pasted the code after basics into Simple Sudoku,
and saved it.

However when I retrieved it later,
additional digits had been added to some cells.

Has anyone else noticed this situation or have some insight into what is happening?

    as mentioned by daj95376, the Save in Simple Sudoku is indeed problematical

      my workaround is to use Copy ( Ctrl-C ),
      and work with this text

        it comes in 2 or 3 parts
        -- anyway, the last part is the "pencilmarks"

          save just these "pencilmarks"
          and you can always Paste them back in
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