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		| roaa 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 12:15 pm    Post subject: July 8 puzzle |   |  
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				| For me todays puzzle (July 8) labelled as hard was more difficult than many of the VH:s with simple xy-wings. Has anybody another opinion? |  | 
	
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		| Kdelle 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 3:26 pm    Post subject: Re: July 8 puzzle |   |  
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				|  	  | roaa wrote: |  	  | For me todays puzzle (July 8) labelled as hard was more difficult than many of the VH:s with simple xy-wings. Has anybody another opinion? | 
 
 It was more difficult for me too but it probably should not have been.  Took me a long time to spot a naked triple that I should have seen earlier.  One of those "Duh!!" moments.
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		| Mindwarp 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 3:14 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Nope, tried it several times couldn't solve it so it now goes into my unsolved sudoku file.  Been quite a few puzzles recently that I haven't been able to solve, I suspect they may all have the same technique to solve them, one which I don't know. |  | 
	
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		| keith 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 1:00 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Look for a 15 pair in C6.  Then for a 135 triple in R9.  You should then be set. 
 Keith
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		| Ema Nymton 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 2:50 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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  	  | Mindwarp wrote: |  	  | Nope, tried it several times couldn't solve it so it now goes into my unsolved sudoku file.  Been quite a few puzzles recently that I haven't been able to solve, I suspect they may all have the same technique to solve them, one which I don't know. | 
 
 After basic steps gets one here:
 
  	  | Code: |  	  | +--------------+-------------+-----------------+
 | 2346  39 69  | 256 1   8   | 7    2345  34   |
 | 23678 1  5   | 4   67  27  | 38   23    9    |
 | 2478  28 78  | 257 9   3   | 158  6     148  |
 +--------------+-------------+-----------------+
 | 78    6  2   | 37  4   79  | 1389 139   5    |
 | 9     5  3   | 1   8   6   | 4    7     2    |
 | 1     4  78  | 237 5   279 | 6    39    38   |
 +--------------+-------------+-----------------+
 | 36    7  16  | 8   2   15  | 1359 13459 1346 |
 | 5     39 169 | 67  367 4   | 2    8     1367 |
 | 28    28 4   | 9   C36715* | A135 B135  1367 |
 +--------------+-------------+-----------------+
 
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 The row 9 pair 15 makes the C not a 3.  (If c5r9 is 3, then *,A,&B become 15).  The rest of the puzzle falls into place.
 
 Ema Nymton
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		| Mogulmeister 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 4:33 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Surely the column 6 pair of 15s Notmyname ? |  | 
	
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