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		| keith 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 12:39 am    Post subject: A different BUG |   |  
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				| The end of today's Brain Bashers Super Hard has an interesting twist.  I have not seen it before. 
 
  	  | Code: |  	  | Puzzle: BB112708sh +-------+-------+-------+
 | . . . | . 1 . | . . . |
 | . . 9 | 2 . 4 | 8 . . |
 | . 8 . | 7 3 6 | . 4 . |
 +-------+-------+-------+
 | . 4 7 | . . . | 5 1 . |
 | 6 . 8 | . . . | 4 . 3 |
 | . 3 1 | . . . | 6 8 . |
 +-------+-------+-------+
 | . 7 . | 3 9 8 | . 5 . |
 | . . 3 | 5 . 1 | 7 . . |
 | . . . | . 7 . | . . . |
 +-------+-------+-------+
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 Even better, it has a pair which is both a W-wing and a complementary pair in an M-wing!
 
 Keith
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		| arkietech 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 12:55 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| I just needed an x-wing to get to the BUG. 
 I eagerly await to see your wings.
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		| storm_norm 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 1:02 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| I get to the interesting "not BUG" situation with two x-wings.  then w-wing. 
 edit... upon further review, I maybe wrong about this not being a BUG, but I am not sure of the rules and what eliminations it makes.
 
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		| Marty R. 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 1:35 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| I didn't notice what you noticed. I used an X-Wing and a W-Wing, the latter probably being part of the interesting twist. |  |  
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		| keith 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 2:17 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| After basics and two X-wings, I get here: 
  	  | Code: |  	  | +----------------+----------------+----------------+ | 7    26   4    | 8    1    9    | 3    26   5    |
 | 3    16   9    | 2    5    4    | 8    67   17   |
 | 15   8    25   | 7    3    6    | 29   4    19   |
 +----------------+----------------+----------------+
 | 29   4    7    | 6    8    3    | 5    1    29   |
 | 6    59   8    | 1    2    57   | 4    79   3    |
 | 25   3    1    | 9    4    57   | 6    8    27   |
 +----------------+----------------+----------------+
 | 14   7    26   | 3    9    8    | 12   5    46   |
 | 48   29   3    | 5    6    1    | 7    29   48   |
 | 1589 15   56   | 4    7    2    | 19   3    68   |
 +----------------+----------------+----------------+
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 This is a BUG+1, except the +1 cell has four candidates, which I have never seen before.  To kill the BUG, R9C1 is <15>, which makes a pair in R9, which solves the puzzle.
 
 Also, the <15> cells in R39 are a W-wing =5 in C3, and a complementary pair both =1 via R2C2.
 
 W-wing:  One, or both, are <1>;  Complementary pair:  They are both the same.  Ergo, they are both <1>.
 
 Or, you can complete the M-wing =5 in R3C13, to take out <5> in R9C3.
 
 Nice ending!
 
 Keith
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		| tlanglet 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 3:15 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| I took a couple of extra steps to get to the BUG condition, but completed the puzzle. 
 Of note, I saw a similar BUG several months ago and solved it and I meant to post a question to verify that I had resolved the situation correctly, but I got distracted (which is a problem with getting older and drinking to much wine) and forgot to do so. Anyway this puzzle verified I made the correct move.
 
 Ted
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