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		crunched
 
 
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				 Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 1:02 am    Post subject: October 31 VH = TH means Too Hard for me | 
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				Below is as far as I could get. I am utterly clueless how to get any further.
 
 
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| 6    9   2     | 5   7   4   | 8   3    1   |
 
| 37   4   8     | 26  1   36  | 257 9    25 |
 
| 1    5   37    | 89  23  89  | 247 246  246 |
 
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| 4589 68  459   | 1   689 2   | 3   4568 7   |
 
| 789  3   79    | 4   689 5   | 29  1    26  |
 
| 2    168 1459  | 3   689 7   | 459 4568 456 |
 
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| 459  12  13459 | 269 23  169 | 245 7    8   |
 
| 589  7   159   | 289 4   189 | 6   25   3   |
 
| 348  28  6     | 7   5   38  | 1   24   9   |
 
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		Marty R.
 
 
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				 Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 3:50 am    Post subject:  | 
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				Highlight the quote to see suggestion.
 
 
 	  | Quote: | 	 		  | Try an XY-Wing pivoted in r9c6. | 	 
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		cgordon
 
 
  Joined: 04 May 2007 Posts: 769 Location: ontario, canada
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				 Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 1:14 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				| A good one - though I tried in vain to do it without an xy-wing.  There's a Type 6 UR on <68> and x-wings on <3> but it would appear the <238> wing was all that was needed. | 
			 
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		Florida Bob
 
 
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				 Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 8:04 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				| There is a XY wing with the pivot in box 8 (38). After that I went fast for me. | 
			 
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		keith
 
 
  Joined: 19 Sep 2005 Posts: 3355 Location: near Detroit, Michigan, USA
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				 Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 9:47 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | Quote: | 	 		  | it would appear the <238> wing was all that was needed. | 	  
 
I agree.  I did use an X-wing (<68> pair in C2, <58> pair in C8) to place <8> in R5C5, but the basics would probably have sufficed.
 
 
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		DennyOR
 
 
  Joined: 12 Sep 2007 Posts: 33 Location: Portland, Oregon
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				 Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 1:20 am    Post subject:  | 
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				| I saw the long path extended xy-chain from the 28 to the 23 before I saw the short wing:  <28-83-36-62>-23=23 | 
			 
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		crunched
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 4:49 am    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | Marty R. wrote: | 	 		  Highlight the quote to see suggestion.
 
 
 	  | Quote: | 	 		  | Try an XY-Wing pivoted in r9c6. | 	 
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There it was, an XY-Wing. Why I never could find it I don't know. But I looked and looked, looked and looked, looked and looked, looked and looked, and I could not find the key.  I guess I was looking horizontal and vertical, and not on a slant? I guess I was looking outside of the box?  As the saying goes, you got to look inside the box sometimes. 
 
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