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		| Earl 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 2:39 am    Post subject: Oct 7 VH |   |  
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				| Friendly skies on a W-wing (56). 
 Earl
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		| Marty R. 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 3:54 am    Post subject: Re: Oct 7 VH |   |  
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				|  	  | Earl wrote: |  	  | Friendly skies on a W-wing (56). 
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 Ditto.
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		| nataraj 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 6:39 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| ... or overlapping xy-wings again (568 boxes 4,6) (this time it doesn't matter which one to take, they have the same effect)
 
 So little of the puzzle left after basics...
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		| arkietech 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 11:53 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| A simple kite solved it for me. |  | 
	
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		| cgordon 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 12:41 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| For me, an ER on <6> using R6 & B7 to remove <6> from R7C6. |  | 
	
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		| tlanglet 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 1:05 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| I was also a kite flier. 
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		| Marty R. 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 3:49 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| I tried it a second time. There was an XY-Wing on 568 which didn't take me too far. I didn't use it but there was a Finned X-Wing on 6 which solved it. |  | 
	
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		| Clement 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 4:54 pm    Post subject: Daily Sudoku: Tue 7-Oct-2008 VH |   |  
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				| XY-Wing <568> Pivot {5,6}r5c3 eliminating 8 in r6c8 and the puzzle is solved. |  | 
	
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		| crunched 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 2:56 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | Code: |  	  | +--------------+---------------+------------+
 | 6   7    2   | 39  349  8    | 5 134  134 |
 | 5   34   9   | 6   1    2    | 8 7    34  |
 | 348 1    348 | 35  345  7    | 9 6    2   |
 +--------------+---------------+------------+
 | 7   349  345 | 159 8    159  | 6 2    35  |
 | 2   689  568 | 4   569  3    | 1 58   7   |
 | 38  368  1   | 7   2    56   | 4 358  9   |
 +--------------+---------------+------------+
 | 1   2    346 | 8   3569 569  | 7 459  456 |
 | 389 5    368 | 139 7    4    | 2 19   16  |
 | 49  469  7   | 2   569  1569 | 3 1459 8   |
 +--------------+---------------+------------+
 
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 Play this puzzle online at the Daily Sudoku site
 
 An x-wing of 8s in columns 2 and 8 eliminates an 8 in C1,R6;
 It also takes out an 8 in C3,R5.
 This results as follows:
 
 
 
  	  | Code: |  	  | +------------+---------------+------------+
 | 6  7   2   | 39  349  8    | 5 134  134 |
 | 5  34  9   | 6   1    2    | 8 7    34  |
 | 48 1   348 | 35  345  7    | 9 6    2   |
 +------------+---------------+------------+
 | 7  49  45  | 159 8    159  | 6 2    35  |
 | 2  689 56  | 4   569  3    | 1 58   7   |
 | 3  68  1   | 7   2    56   | 4 58   9   |
 +------------+---------------+------------+
 | 1  2   346 | 8   3569 569  | 7 459  456 |
 | 89 5   368 | 139 7    4    | 2 19   16  |
 | 49 469 7   | 2   569  1569 | 3 1459 8   |
 +------------+---------------+------------+
 
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 Play this puzzle online at the Daily Sudoku site
 
 This opens up an xy wing 68-56-58 with 56 as pivot...and the puzzle gets solved.
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		| nataraj 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 5:27 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | crunched wrote: |  	  | An x-wing of 8s in columns 2 and 8 eliminates an 8 in C1,R6; It also takes out an 8 in C3,R5.
 
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 Alternatively, there are a few things that can still be achieved using more basic means:
 
 9 in r9c2: in col 1, 9 is confined to r89c1.
 8 in r6c1,r5c3: 8 in col 2 confined to r56c2.
 
 This leaves a naked 3 in r6c1, which in turn solves a whole bunch of cells, until we get to this point:
 
 
 
 
  	  | Code: |  	  | +--------------------------+--------------------------+--------------------------+
 | 6       7       2        | 9       4       8        | 5       3       1        |
 | 5       3       9        | 6       1       2        | 8       7       4        |
 | 48      1       48       | 35      35      7        | 9       6       2        |
 +--------------------------+--------------------------+--------------------------+
 | 7       49      45       | 15      8       159      | 6       2       3        |
 | 2       689     56       | 4       569     3        | 1       58      7        |
 | 3       68      1        | 7       2       56       | 4       58      9        |
 +--------------------------+--------------------------+--------------------------+
 | 1       2       346      | 8       369     69       | 7       49      5        |
 | 89      5       38       | 13      7       4        | 2       19      6        |
 | 49      46      7        | 2       569     1569     | 3       149     8        |
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		| DennyOR 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 7:23 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| And from there the xy-chain 65-51-13-38-84-45-56 also solves it. |  | 
	
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