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Earl



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 3:31 pm    Post subject: Feb 16 DB Reply with quote

This DB has a few hidden trips and then a skyscaper (9) solves it.


Earl


Code:

+-------+-------+-------+
| 1 . . | . . . | . . . |
| . 6 2 | . 4 . | . . . |
| 3 . 4 | . 5 . | . 1 . |
+-------+-------+-------+
| . . . | 5 . 4 | . . 6 |
| 6 . 3 | 2 . 8 | 5 . 7 |
| 8 . . | 9 . 3 | . . . |
+-------+-------+-------+
| . 7 . | . 8 . | 2 . 1 |
| . . . | . 2 . | 4 6 . |
| . . . | . . . | . . 8 |
+-------+-------+-------+

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Marty R.



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There was a Type 4 UR on 24 and a W-Wing on 39 solved it.
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Victor



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Earl, that's a new one on me. What are hidden trips? (Sounds like 60s LSD or something!)
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storm_norm



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hidden trip wires...

maybe war veteran slang??
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storm_norm



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

xyz-wing

UR

then coloring on 9
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keith



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hidden triples?

I used a UR and the skyscraper.

Keith
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Marty R.



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

storm_norm wrote:
hidden trip wires...

maybe war veteran slang??

Hopefully he'll explain. In my old poker-playing days, three of a kind were called "trips", so maybe he means hidden triples.
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keith



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a new one, for me: An extended triple.

Can you solve this in one move?
Code:
+----------------+----------------+----------------+
| 1    89   5    | 678  39c  267  | 67   24   2349 |
| 7    6    2    | 13a  4    19b  | 8-9   58   359  |
| 3    89   4    | 678  5    267  | 67   1    29   |
+----------------+----------------+----------------+
| 29   12   19   | 5    7    4    | 38   38   6    |
| 6    4    3    | 2    1    8    | 5    9    7    |
| 8    5    7    | 9    6    3    | 1    24   24   |
+----------------+----------------+----------------+
| 459  7    69   | 346  8    569  | 2    35   1    |
| 59   3    8    | 17   2    17   | 4    6    59   |
| 245  12   16   | 46   39d  56   | 39e  7    8    |
+----------------+----------------+----------------+

abc in B2 is a triple. Any cell that sees all three cannot be <139>. We can extend c <39> to d and e. c and e are the same value. R2C7 cannot be <9>, the puzzle is solved!

Of course, abc is also a very useless XY-wing: Any cell that sees both b and c cannot be <9>.

[The UR on <24> is in R16C89. It takes out <24> in R1C9.
Th skyscraper on <9> is in C57. It takes out <9> in R1C9.]

Keith
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storm_norm



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marty R. wrote:
storm_norm wrote:
hidden trip wires...

maybe war veteran slang??

Hopefully he'll explain. In my old poker-playing days, three of a kind were called "trips", so maybe he means hidden triples.


yeah, you are right, I don't know where the trip wire thing came from. three of a kind is trips.
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Johan



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The <9> in R2C7 can also be eliminated by the ER in Box 2
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