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march 17- i'm stuck and the hint doesn't help

 
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sweedy



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 11:55 am    Post subject: march 17- i'm stuck and the hint doesn't help Reply with quote

i'm stuck on the puzzle of march 17.. (yes i'm working through the archives..)
this is how far i got (in brackets are the possible canditates for each field). the hint this website gives to me is a 1 in r5c3 but that doesn't help because i can't retrace it.
(2,4,8.) (2,4,6) (4,8.) 9 1 (5,6,7)(3,5,7,8.) (3,5,7) (3,4,8.)
3 (4,6,9) (4,8,9) (6,7) 2 (5,6,7) (5,7,8.) 1 (4,8.)
1 7 5 (3,4) (3,4) 8 6 2 9
(7,8.) 5 2 (1,3,7) (3,7,8.)(1,3,7) 4 9 6
6 (1,4) (1,4,8.) 5 (4,8.) 9 2 3 7
(4,7,9) (3,4,9) (3,4,7,9) (2,3,4,7) 6 (2,3,7) 1 8 5
5 (1,2,3,9) 6 8 (3,7)(1,2,3,7) 9 4 (1,3)
(4,7,9) 8 (1,3,4,7,9)(1,3,6,7) 5 (1,3,6,7) (3,7) (6,7) 2
(2,7) (1,3) (1,3,7) (1,2,3,6,7) 9 4 (3,5,7,8.)(5,6,7) (1,3,8.)
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 3:13 pm    Post subject: March 17 Reply with quote

4 and 9 are already in rows 7 and 9
In row 8, they must occupy r8 c1 or r8 c3
This reduces your possibilities for r8 c3 from 1, 3, 4, 7 or 9 to 4 or 9
Inspection of column 3 then shows 4, 8 and 9 fill r1 c3, r2, c3 and r8, c3
None of these entries can go in r5 c3
... which leaves just 1.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 3:15 pm    Post subject: Isolating that "1" Reply with quote

First you need to clean up your grid. There's a hidden pair {4, 9} in row 8. There's also a hidden pair {3, 7} in column 3. After you make the eliminations the matrix looks like this
Code:

248  246   48    9      1    567   3578  357  348
3    469   489   67     2    567   578   1    48
1    7     5     34     34   8     6     2    9
78   5     2     137    378  137   4     9    6
6    14    148   5      48   9     2     3    7
479  349   37    2347   6    237   1     8    5
5    1239  6     8      37   1237  9     4    13
49   8     49    1367   5    1367  37    67   2
27   13    37    12367  9    4     3578  567  138

Now the "1" in r5c3 is clearly a necessity, and you can also place a "4" in r5c2. dcb
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow, thank you very much!! i forgot all about checking for hidden pairs!
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