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		George Woods
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 12:41 pm    Post subject: Trivial but interesting in sat 23rd VH | 
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				| On this one I found a logic that I have not encountered before. This was at the stage just before the xwings and xy wing : Analyzing  box3 we see that 4 is either in cell 1 or 2 by analyzing the row or in cell 2 or8 by analyzng the column. The only cell satisfying both is cell 2 which must be 4. Is this a common move?, 'cos I don't think I have met it before! | 
			 
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		Mogulmeister
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 3:38 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				| Could you stick up the grid ? | 
			 
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		jLo
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 4:11 pm    Post subject:  | 
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On this one I found a logic that I have not encountered before. This was at the stage just before the xwings and xy wing : Analyzing box3 we see that 4 is either in cell 1 or 2 by analyzing the row or in cell 2 or8 by analyzng the column. The only cell satisfying both is cell 2 which must be 4. Is this a common move?, 'cos I don't think I have met it before!
 
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| 124     1246 | 24          |     1246     |
 
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I think this is just simple row/column lockout.
 
 
4 in row 1 must be in Box 3, eliminating 4 from R3c8 (and R2C7)
 
4 in Box 7 must be in Row 9, eliminating 4 from R9C8
 
 
That leaves a single 4 in column 8 - R1C8=4 | 
			 
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		George Woods
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 10:08 pm    Post subject: row/column lockout. | 
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				| thanks :- As I said I do not remeber having met it before andso did not have a convenient description but " row/column lockout." seems to do the job! | 
			 
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		Marty R.
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 12:37 am    Post subject:  | 
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				| That's a new term to me, "row/column lockout." It's more commonly known as "locked candidates" or "box-line reduction." | 
			 
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