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RobertRattley
Joined: 24 Jun 2007 Posts: 118 Location: Australia
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Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 3:01 am Post subject: Jan 14 VH |
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x wing 7
xy wing 159
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Marty R.
Joined: 12 Feb 2006 Posts: 5770 Location: Rochester, NY, USA
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Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 6:01 am Post subject: |
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My X-Wing was on 9 in c58 followed by the same XY-Wing. |
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hughwill
Joined: 05 Apr 2010 Posts: 422 Location: Birmingham UK
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Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:34 am Post subject: Jan 14VH |
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After basics: Code: |
+---------------+--------------+-------------+
| 4579 59 4579 | 2 6 49 | 1 3 8 |
| 149 19 3 | 49 8 5 | 6 2 7 |
| 8 2 6 | 7 1 3 | 59 4 59 |
+---------------+--------------+-------------+
| 459 8 459 | 59 3 6 | 7 1 2 |
| 1579 6 1579 | 8 79 2 | 34 59 34 |
| 579 3 2 | 159 4 179 | 8 6 59 |
+---------------+--------------+-------------+
| 2 4 19 | 139 5 8 | 39 7 6 |
| 3 159 8 | 6 79 1479 | 2 59 14 |
| 6 7 159 | 1349 2 149 | 3459 8 134 |
+---------------+--------------+-------------+
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Same solution- very satisfying today! |
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RobertRattley
Joined: 24 Jun 2007 Posts: 118 Location: Australia
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Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 3:07 pm Post subject: Re: Jan 14 VH |
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RobertRattley wrote: | x wing 7
xy wing 159... |
Oops! Typo. I meant x wing 9. |
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George Woods
Joined: 28 Mar 2006 Posts: 304 Location: Dorset UK
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Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 4:04 pm Post subject: Can't find the 159 wing |
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Forgive me- I get the same result and the x wing on 9 as quoted but can't find the 15 to make up a 159 xy wing. There is a kind of x wing 579 with pivot at r5c5 that leads to a 5 at r4c4 but for me no obvious continuation
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Marty R.
Joined: 12 Feb 2006 Posts: 5770 Location: Rochester, NY, USA
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Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 6:12 pm Post subject: Re: Can't find the 159 wing |
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George Woods wrote: | Forgive me- I get the same result and the x wing on 9 as quoted but can't find the 15 to make up a 159 xy wing. There is a kind of x wing 579 with pivot at r5c5 that leads to a 5 at r4c4 but for me no obvious continuation
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The X-Wing takes out a 9 from r8c2, which then becomes the XY-Wing pivot. |
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George Woods
Joined: 28 Mar 2006 Posts: 304 Location: Dorset UK
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Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 1:05 pm Post subject: a kind of XY wing |
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Thanks Marty -Just after posting my problem I realised I had serviced only half of the X wing. and of course correcting that gives a direct solution.
BUT is the kind of XY that Idescribed andlead to the 5 at r4c4 classified as an XY wing and if not how is it described? |
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Marty R.
Joined: 12 Feb 2006 Posts: 5770 Location: Rochester, NY, USA
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Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 4:15 pm Post subject: |
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George,
I'm sorry, but I just don't know what combination of cells constitute what you're asking about. This is the grid after the X-Wing is executed.
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| 4579 59 4579 | 2 6 49 | 1 3 8 |
| 149 19 3 | 49 8 5 | 6 2 7 |
| 8 2 6 | 7 1 3 | 59 4 59 |
+--------------+-------------+-------------+
| 459 8 459 | 59 3 6 | 7 1 2 |
| 157 6 157 | 8 79 2 | 34 59 34 |
| 579 3 2 | 159 4 179 | 8 6 59 |
+--------------+-------------+-------------+
| 2 4 19 | 139 5 8 | 39 7 6 |
| 3 15 8 | 6 79 147 | 2 59 14 |
| 6 7 159 | 1349 2 149 | 3459 8 134 |
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George Woods
Joined: 28 Mar 2006 Posts: 304 Location: Dorset UK
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Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 7:23 pm Post subject: almost an XY |
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XY (nearly 597)
Take the pivot at r5c5 If 7 the pair of 15s in Block 4 denaies 5s to top row in that block OR if 9 then same row of block 4 is denied 5 ergo r4c4 is 5 |
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Marty R.
Joined: 12 Feb 2006 Posts: 5770 Location: Rochester, NY, USA
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Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 8:14 pm Post subject: Re: almost an XY |
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George Woods wrote: | XY (nearly 597)
Take the pivot at r5c5 If 7 the pair of 15s in Block 4 denaies 5s to top row in that block OR if 9 then same row of block 4 is denied 5 ergo r4c4 is 5 |
Code: | +--------------+-------------+-------------+
| 4579 59 4579 | 2 6 49 | 1 3 8 |
| 149 19 3 | 49 8 5 | 6 2 7 |
| 8 2 6 | 7 1 3 | 59 4 59 |
+--------------+-------------+-------------+
| 459 8 459 | 59 3 6 | 7 1 2 |
| 157 6 157 | 8 79 2 | 34 59 34 |
| 579 3 2 | 159 4 179 | 8 6 59 |
+--------------+-------------+-------------+
| 2 4 19 | 139 5 8 | 39 7 6 |
| 3 15 8 | 6 79 147 | 2 59 14 |
| 6 7 159 | 1349 2 149 | 3459 8 134 |
+--------------+-------------+-------------+ |
George,
I am hardly an expert on such things, but that might be an XY-Wing with r5c13 being a pseudo cell, i.e., the two cells act as one 57 pincer. Then you would treat it as an XY-Wing=>r4c13<>5 rather than having to look at each value of r5c5.
If by any chance Keith sees this, he'll be able to give the final word. |
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