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		roaa
 
 
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				 Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 8:09 am    Post subject: Sept 19 VH | 
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				| One step solution: xy-wing (245), pivot r7c1, forces r4c7=6, which makes it. | 
			 
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		hughwill
 
 
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				 Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 8:54 am    Post subject: Sept 19 VH | 
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				After basics:
 
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| 8  1   4   | 6  7 25 | 3  9   25  |
 
| 2  5   6   | 9  3 1  | 4  8   7   |
 
| 7  9   3   | 8  4 25 | 1  256 256 |
 
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| 9  23  125 | 4  6 7  | 8  25  13  |
 
| 6  8   12  | 12 5 3  | 7  4   9   |
 
| 45 234 7   | 12 8 9  | 26 256 13  |
 
+------------+---------+------------+
 
| 45 247 8   | 57 1 6  | 9  3   24  |
 
| 3  267 25  | 57 9 4  | 26 1   8   |
 
| 1  46  9   | 3  2 8  | 5  7   46  |
 
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Play this puzzle online at the Daily Sudoku site
 
 
Roaa said:
 
 
 	  | Quote: | 	 		  | One step solution: xy-wing (245), pivot r7c1, forces r4c7=6, which makes it. | 	  
 
 
Yes, I got that too, but only after going up the 123 XY blind alley and
 
before seeing the (boring?) one-step Type 1 UR on 25 in boxes 2 and 3. | 
			 
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		roaa
 
 
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				 Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 1:27 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				| I also saw both these before I landed in the best(?) xy 245 solution. | 
			 
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		Dart45
 
 
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				 Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 6:10 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				| Huh?  What?  r4c7 is not 6!  So what's up here? | 
			 
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		Marty R.
 
 
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				 Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 8:04 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | Dart45 wrote: | 	 		  | Huh?  What?  r4c7 is not 6!  So what's up here? | 	  
 
 
Maybe a typo. R8c7 is 6 after the 2 is eliminated. | 
			 
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		RobertRattley
 
 
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				 Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 2:18 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				I like 'very hard' puzzles that need a 'hard' step or two on the way.  Here I needed a pair 46 in row 9.
 
 
Like roaa I also saw the two independent xy wings.  I was curious as to whether they were both needed.  I confirmed that the 123 xy wing was not enough (hughwill's "blind alley") and not even necessary:  the 245 xy wing was necessary and sufficient. | 
			 
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