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		Clement
 
 
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				 Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:04 pm    Post subject: Feb 8 VH | 
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+----------+-----------+------------+
 
| 237 37 6 | 23 8   5  | 49  1  49  |
 
| 9   1  5 | 4  7   6  | 28  3  28  |
 
| 23  8  4 | 23 1   9  | 6   5  7   |
 
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| 8   47 2 | 6  #39  37 | 5   *49 1   |
 
| 47  5  3 | 1  29  27 | 489 6  489 |
 
| 1   6  9 | 8  5   4  | 7   2  3   |
 
+----------+-----------+------------+
 
| 34  9  7 | 5  6   23 | 1   8  24  |
 
| 5   2  8 | 7  *34  1  | 349 -49 6   |
 
| 6   34 1 | 9  234 8  | 234 7  5   |
 
+----------+-----------+------------+
 
 | 	  XY-Wing 34-39-49 pivoted in r4c5; r8c8<>4 solves it.
 
Also Type 1 UR 23 in r13c14; r1c1<>23. | 
			 
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		hughwill
 
 
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				 Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 11:04 am    Post subject: Feb 8 VH | 
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				As well as the 'double' 349 XY wing, there's also a one shot 234 XY 
 
wing with pivot on r7c6. | 
			 
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		Clement
 
 
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				 Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 12:35 pm    Post subject: Feb 8 VH | 
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				| Not forgeting the W-Wing 34 in BOX 78 with SL 3 in col 7; r9c5<>4. | 
			 
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		eddieg
 
 
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				 Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 4:04 pm    Post subject: Greeting from San Diego | 
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				| Have not posted here in years, stop by every once in a while to play a couple puzzles.  Good luck all. | 
			 
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		Rocky Mozell
 
 
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				 Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 4:16 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				| Is that a BUG+1 with the 7's in boxes 1,4 &5? It would be my first. | 
			 
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		Marty R.
 
 
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				 Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 4:33 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | Rocky Mozell wrote: | 	 		  | Is that a BUG+1 with the 7's in boxes 1,4 &5? It would be my first. | 	  
 
 
A BUG+1 pattern occurs when all cells are bivalue with one trivalue. Or BUG+N is all bivalues with N trivalues. BUG+1 and 2 are commonly played, with +3 played less often. | 
			 
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		ronk
 
 
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				 Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 5:17 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | Marty R. wrote: | 	 		  | A BUG+1 pattern occurs when all cells are bivalue with one trivalue. | 	  
 
That cell with an extra candidate may have any number of extra candidates. IOW it is polyvalued. | 
			 
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		Marty R.
 
 
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				 Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 6:09 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | ronk wrote: | 	 		   	  | Marty R. wrote: | 	 		  | A BUG+1 pattern occurs when all cells are bivalue with one trivalue. | 	  
 
That cell with an extra candidate may have any number of extra candidates. IOW it is polyvalued. | 	  
 
 
I'm sure your definition is correct. So a quadrivalue cell is a BUG+1 pattern, but two numbers have to be accounted for, so to me it's a de facto BUG+2. | 
			 
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		ronk
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 12:16 am    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | Marty R. wrote: | 	 		   	  | ronk wrote: | 	 		   	  | Marty R. wrote: | 	 		  | A BUG+1 pattern occurs when all cells are bivalue with one trivalue. | 	  That cell with an extra candidate may have any number of extra candidates. IOW it is polyvalued. | 	  I'm sure your definition is correct. So a quadrivalue cell is a BUG+1 pattern, but two numbers have to be accounted for, so to me it's a de facto BUG+2. | 	  
 
I made that same mistake when learning about BUGs, but in the BUG+n expression, the 'n' is the number of cells with extra candidates, not the number of extra candidates. | 
			 
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		keith
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 10:17 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | ronk wrote: | 	 		   	  | Marty R. wrote: | 	 		   	  | ronk wrote: | 	 		   	  | Marty R. wrote: | 	 		  | A BUG+1 pattern occurs when all cells are bivalue with one trivalue. | 	  That cell with an extra candidate may have any number of extra candidates. IOW it is polyvalued. | 	  I'm sure your definition is correct. So a quadrivalue cell is a BUG+1 pattern, but two numbers have to be accounted for, so to me it's a de facto BUG+2. | 	  
 
I made that same mistake when learning about BUGs, but in the BUG+n expression, the 'n' is the number of cells with extra candidates, not the number of extra candidates. | 	  
 
I'm firmly with Ron on this one.
 
 
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		Marty R.
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 12:13 am    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | Quote: | 	 		  | I'm firmly with Ron on this one.  | 	  
 
 
Keith, I didn't know there were any sides to take. I'm with Ron too. Maybe I didn't make it clear, but I was trying to concede he was correct when I said "I'm sure your definition is correct." | 
			 
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