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		sudocraz
 
 
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				 Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 12:44 am    Post subject: Can't solve puzzle | 
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				Hi Everybody,
 
My husband and I can't solve this puzzle without guessing.
 
 
 - - 4    3 - -    - 9 -
 
 - - 6    - - -    - 2 -
 
 - - -    - 7 -    8 1 -
 
 
 - 9 -   - 8 4   - 6 -
 
 -  - -   7 - 9   - - -
 
 - 7 -   1 3  -   - 4 -
 
 
 - 1 8   - 9 -     - - -
 
 - 2 -   -  - -    3 - -
 
 - 6 -   - - 3    9 - -
 
 
We have got this far
 
 - 8 4       3 - -          - 9 5
 
 - 5 6       9 - 8         - 2 3
 
 - 3 -       - 7 5        8  1 -
 
 - 9 3       - 8 4       1 6 7
 
 6 4 1       7 - 9       - 3  8
 
 8 7 -       1 3 6       - 4 9
 
 3 1 8       - 9 -       - - -
 
 - 2  -       - - -       3 - -
 
 - 6 -       - -  3       9 - -
 
 
Sorry, I don't know how to format this puzzle. | 
			 
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		keith
 
 
  Joined: 19 Sep 2005 Posts: 3355 Location: near Detroit, Michigan, USA
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				 Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 1:07 am    Post subject:  | 
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				Maybe you are here: 	  | Code: | 	 		  +----------------+----------------+----------------+
 
| 17   8    4    | 3    126  12   | 67   9    5    | 
 
| 17   5    6    | 9    14   8    | 47   2    3    | 
 
| 29   3    29   | 46   7    5    | 8    1    46   | 
 
+----------------+----------------+----------------+
 
| 25   9    3    | 25   8    4    | 1    6    7    | 
 
| 6    4    1    | 7    25   9    | 25   3    8    | 
 
| 8    7    25   | 1    3    6    | 25   4    9    | 
 
+----------------+----------------+----------------+
 
| 3    1    8    | 2456 9    27   | 46   57   246  | 
 
| 459  2    579  | 4568 1456 17   | 3    578  146  | 
 
| 45   6    57   | 2458 1245 3    | 9    578  124  | 
 
+----------------+----------------+----------------+ | 	  
 
Look at the Help section of the site to learn how to format a puzzle:
 
 
http://www.dailysudoku.com/sudoku/forums/viewtopic.php?p=6204#6204
 
 
This is not easy.  A first step is a double W-wing 46 that takes out 46 in R6C4.
 
 
Actually, that turns out to solve the puzzle!
 
 
Keith | 
			 
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		Marty R.
 
 
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				 Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 1:22 am    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | Quote: | 	 		  | This is not easy. A first step is a double W-wing 46 that takes out 46 in R6C4.  | 	  
 
I think you mean r7c4. It can also be viewed as two simple coloring chains, one each on 4 and 6. | 
			 
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		keith
 
 
  Joined: 19 Sep 2005 Posts: 3355 Location: near Detroit, Michigan, USA
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				 Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 1:41 am    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | Marty R. wrote: | 	 		   	  | Quote: | 	 		  | This is not easy. A first step is a double W-wing 46 that takes out 46 in R6C4.  | 	  
 
I think you mean r7c4. It can also be viewed as two simple coloring chains, one each on 4 and 6. | 	  
 
Marty, 
 
 
Yes.  R7C4.  There is nothing special about this WW wing.  It can also be seen as two skyscrapers in 4 and in 6 or, as you say, a couple of short coloring chains that both go through B23.
 
 
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		sudocraz
 
 
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				 Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 1:48 am    Post subject:  | 
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				Hi Marty & Keith,
 
 
Thank you for your help, not only with the puzzle but on how to format one.   I will have to look up the W wing.  I had thought that it was the same as the WXYZ wing.
 
 
I am amazed that you were able to read my puzzle. It was such a mess.     You even got to exactly where we were in it.
 
I couldn't help but notice the 25s on boxes 4, 5, and 6.  I was wondering if they meant anything. | 
			 
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		keith
 
 
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