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Clement



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 10:19 pm    Post subject: April 21 VH Reply with quote

XY-Wing 37 38(pivot) 78 eliminates 7 in r7c7 solving the puzzle.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 2:44 am    Post subject: April 21 VH Reply with quote

Or fly solo.

A solution: 38 W-wing

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 3:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also the XYZ-Wing (478).
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 5:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Question I used an XY 37-8.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

keith wrote:
:?: I used an XY 37-8.

Keith


That's what I used. Could someone post the puzzle after basics so that I can see the W wing?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

arjun wrote:
Could someone post the puzzle after basics so that I can see the W wing?
Code:
 *--------------------------------------------------*
 | 1    7    58   | 3    2    9    | 6    458  48   |
 | 4    2    358  | 1    68   56   | 9    7    38   |
 | 6    9    358  | 58   7    4    | 2    358  1    |
 |----------------+----------------+----------------|
 | 9    5    6    | 2    4    8    | 3    1    7    |
 | 38   138  2    | 57   136  57   | 4    68   9    |
 | 7    138  4    | 9    136  36   | 5    2    68   |
 |----------------+----------------+----------------|
 | 38   4    1    | 6    5    37   | 78   9    2    |
 | 2    368  9    | 478  38   1    | 78   346  5    |
 | 5    368  7    | 48   9    2    | 1    346  346  |
 *--------------------------------------------------*
Lots of goodies here but where is the w-wing that solves the puzzle?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

arkietech wrote:
arjun wrote:
Could someone post the puzzle after basics so that I can see the W wing?
Code:
 *--------------------------------------------------*
 | 1    7    58   | 3    2    9    | 6    458  48   |
 | 4    2    358  | 1    68   56   | 9    7    38   |
 | 6    9    358  | 58   7    4    | 2    358  1    |
 |----------------+----------------+----------------|
 | 9    5    6    | 2    4    8    | 3    1    7    |
 | 38   138  2    | 57   136  57   | 4    68   9    |
 | 7    138  4    | 9    136  36   | 5    2    68   |
 |----------------+----------------+----------------|
 | 38   4    1    | 6    5    37   | 78   9    2    |
 | 2    368  9    | 478  38   1    | 78   346  5    |
 | 5    368  7    | 48   9    2    | 1    346  346  |
 *--------------------------------------------------*
Lots of goodies here but where is the w-wing that solves the puzzle?

38s in boxes 78 connected by 8s in r9.
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arkietech



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 1:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marty R wrote:
38s in boxes 78 connected by 8s in r9.

Thanks Marty .. They are easy to miss when you have such abundance.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marty R. wrote:
arkietech wrote:
arjun wrote:
Could someone post the puzzle after basics so that I can see the W wing?
Code:
 *--------------------------------------------------*
 | 1    7    58   | 3    2    9    | 6    458  48   |
 | 4    2    358  | 1    68   56   | 9    7    38   |
 | 6    9    358  | 58   7    4    | 2    358  1    |
 |----------------+----------------+----------------|
 | 9    5    6    | 2    4    8    | 3    1    7    |
 | 38   138  2    | 57   136  57   | 4    68   9    |
 | 7    138  4    | 9    136  36   | 5    2    68   |
 |----------------+----------------+----------------|
 | 38   4    1    | 6    5    37   | 78   9    2    |
 | 2    368  9    | 478  38   1    | 78   346  5    |
 | 5    368  7    | 48   9    2    | 1    346  346  |
 *--------------------------------------------------*
Lots of goodies here but where is the w-wing that solves the puzzle?

38s in boxes 78 connected by 8s in r9.


Didn't see that.....I saw the 8s in C7.
My original solution was the XYZ wing.

Kathy
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keith



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is an interesting UR. After basics:
Code:
+-------------+-------------+-------------+
| 1   7   58  | 3   2   9   | 6   458 48  |
| 4   2   358 | 1   68  56  | 9   7   38  |
| 6   9   358 | 58  7   4   | 2   358 1   |
+-------------+-------------+-------------+
| 9   5   6   | 2   4   8   | 3   1   7   |
| 38  138 2   | 57 1-36 57  | 4   68  9   |
| 7  1-38 4   | 9   136 36  | 5   2   68  |
+-------------+-------------+-------------+
| 38  4   1   | 6   5   37  | 78  9   2   |
| 2   368 9   | 478 38  1   | 78  346 5   |
| 5   368 7   | 48  9   2   | 1   346 346 |
+-------------+-------------+-------------+

For the 13 UR in R56C25: Either one of R56C2 is 8 and / or one of R56C5 is 6. Eliminating 3 in R5C5 and R6C2.

Not that it helps. Crying or Very sad

Keith
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

arkietech wrote:
Lots of goodies here but where is the w-wing that solves the puzzle?

There are plenty of M-Wings and W-Wings from which to choose.

Code:
 crb_-c_-r (8=6)r2c5 - r5c5 = (6-8)r5c8 = (8)r6c9   =>  r2c9<>8
 brr_bc_-r (8=3)r8c5 - r7c6 = (3-8)r7c1 = (8)r7c7   =>  r8c7<>8
 cbb_-c_-r (3=8)r5c1 - (8=3)r7c1 - r7c6 = (3)r8c5   =>  r5c5<>3
 cbc_--_-- (3=8)r5c1 - (8=3)r7c1 - r7c6 = (3)r6c6   =>  r5c5,r6c2<>3
 brR_b-_-r (3=8)r8c5 - r9c4 = (8-3)r9c2 = (3)r9c89  =>  r8c8<>3
 crC_b-_-r (8=6)r2c5 - r5c5 = (6-8)r5c8 = (8)r13c8  =>  r2c9<>8

 W-Wing (8=5)r1c3 - r2c3  = r2c6  - (5=8)r3c4  =>  r3c3<>8
 W-Wing (8=5)r1c3 - r1c8  = r3c8  - (5=8)r3c4  =>  r3c3<>8
 W-Wing (8=6)r2c5 - r2c6  = r6c6  - (6=8)r6c9  =>  r2c9<>8
 W-Wing (8=6)r2c5 - r5c5  = r5c8  - (6=8)r6c9  =>  r2c9<>8
 W-Wing (8=6)r2c5 - r5c5  = r6c56 - (6=8)r6c9  =>  r2c9<>8
 W-Wing (8=6)r2c5 - r56c5 = r6c56 - (6=8)r6c9  =>  r2c9<>8
 W-Wing (3=8)r7c1 - r9c2  = r9c4  - (8=3)r8c5  =>  r7c6,r8c2<>3   Marty's
 W-Wing (3=8)r7c1 - r7c7  = r8c7  - (8=3)r8c5  =>  r7c6,r8c2<>3   Kdelle's
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