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		Earl
 
 
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				 Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 3:27 am    Post subject: Dec 8 VH | 
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				XY-wing (128).
 
 
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		sdq_pete
 
 
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				 Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 11:23 am    Post subject:  | 
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				Well, for the second time in succession, no advanced techniques at all and very quick (by my standards)...
 
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		cgordon
 
 
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				 Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 2:13 pm    Post subject:  | 
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Same here.
 
 	  | Quote: | 	 		  | Well, for the second time in succession, no advanced techniques at all and very quick (by my standards)...  | 	  
 
That's twice in a row you got lucky. I can't remember when that last happened to me.... | 
			 
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		Wendy W
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 1:34 am    Post subject:  | 
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				| Just like you guys, all I needed was the xy 128 and it completely fell apart. Yawn. | 
			 
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		sdq_pete
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 11:31 am    Post subject:  | 
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				I think I shall have to install a keystroke recorder...
 
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		KSipher
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 4:19 am    Post subject:  | 
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				So, now I feel pretty foolish, but I am stuck here.  I can't find an xy wing and have searched and searched.  Can someone please ease my pain. Thanks.
 
 
Kathy
 
 
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+-------------+--------+----------------+
 
| 47  78  48  | 3  2 6 | 9    1    5    |
 
| 25  56  1   | 4  9 8 | 7    26   3    |
 
| 23  9   236 | 7  5 1 | 4    268  268  |
 
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| 59  56  7   | 8  1 4 | 26   3    269  |
 
| 1   2   68  | 9  3 7 | 68   5    4    |
 
| 389 4   38  | 5  6 2 | 1    89   7    |
 
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| 238 138 9   | 12 4 5 | 2368 7    1268 |
 
| 6   18  248 | 12 7 3 | 5    2489 1289 |
 
| 47  137 5   | 6  8 9 | 23   24   12   |
 
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Play this puzzle online at the Daily Sudoku site | 
			 
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		daj95376
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 4:31 am    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | KSipher wrote: | 	 		  | So, now I feel pretty foolish, but I am stuck here.  I can't find an xy wing and have searched and searched.  Can someone please ease my pain. Thanks. | 	  
 
Hello Kathy,
 
 
The reason you can't find an XY-Wing is that you still need to perform a Locked Candidate 2 elimination to expose two XY-Wings. Either XY-Wing will then crack the puzzle.
 
 
Note: there are 3x Locked Candidate 2 present in your PM, but only one exposes the XY-Wings.
 
 
Regards, Danny
 
 
FWIW: There is a Skyscraper in your current PM that'll bypass everything I said above ... and crack the puzzle. | 
			 
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		DennyOR
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 10:27 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				| Or to put it another way that I can understand, the center column in box 7 must contain the 3 in that box since the rest of that column in the boxes above it doesn't contain a 3. Therefore, the 3 can be removed as a possible choice for the r7c1 cell, setting up the 21-18-82 xy-wing which makes r7c4 a 1. | 
			 
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		KSipher
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 4:22 am    Post subject:  | 
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				Relief!!!    I now see what I missed and can finish it off. Thanks for the help.
 
 
Now if you could just help me with my Christmas shopping !    
 
 
Kathy | 
			 
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