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Please help with logic for Hard Puzzle from March 17

 
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Mike



Joined: 25 Oct 2005
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Location: Connecticut

PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 9:25 pm    Post subject: Please help with logic for Hard Puzzle from March 17 Reply with quote

Please help with logic, hint suggests 1 in r5c3

000 910 000
300 020 010
175 008 629

052 000 496
600 509 237
000 060 185

506 800 940
080 050 002
000 094 000

Thanks for your help.
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David Bryant



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Location: Denver, Colorado

PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 10:58 pm    Post subject: Triplet in column 3 Reply with quote

There's a triplet {4, 8, 9} in column 3.

First you need to identify the hidden pair in the bottom left 3x3 box. Look at the pair {4, 9} appearing in row 7 and in row 9 -- the only way {4, 9} can fit in the bottom left 3x3 box is if it goes in r8c1 & r8c3.

Now look at column 3, in the top left 3x3 box. The only values possible at r1c3 are {4, 8}. The only values possible at r2c3 are {4, 8, 9}. So there's a triplet {4, 8, 9} lying in column 3, at r1c3, r2c3, and r8c3.

Now looking across row 5, it appears that the possibilities for r5c3 are {1, 4, 8} -- but the "4" and the "8" are out because of the triplet. dcb
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geoff h



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Mike,

There is a quadruple of 1,2,3,7 in Box No. 7 ( cells r7c2, r9c1, r9c2, r9c3 ). This then leaves you with a pair of 4,9 in r8c1 and r8c3.

You then have a triplet of 4,8,9 in Column 3 ( cells r1c3, r2c3 and r8c3). Therefore you can eliminate all other 4,8,9s from cells in Column 3. Since the only possibilities for Cell No. r5c3 are 1,4,8 this then leaves Nr 1 as only possibility in that cell.

Hope this helps.
Cheers.
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Mike



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 1:02 am    Post subject: Completed. Thank you !! Reply with quote

I had identified the individual possibilities for each separate square but had not focused on the trplet and quadruplet column and box combinations.

Thank you David and Geoff for your suggestions!!
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