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Help, Please, With Solution Technique for a Difficult Puzzle

 
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Paladin



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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 4:12 pm    Post subject: Help, Please, With Solution Technique for a Difficult Puzzle Reply with quote

This puzzle appeared in the May 3, 2008 issue of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch. The initial grid configuration was:

008009000500600030701000050400072000003000900000890006010000607070004001000900500

Using elementary solving techniques, the grid was reduced to this configuration:

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+---------------+-------------+--------------+
|  23   23    8 |  7    5   9 |   1    6   4 |
|   5    4    9 |  6    2   1 |   7    3   8 |
|   7    6    1 |  4    3   8 |   2    5   9 |
+---------------+-------------+--------------+
|   4    9    6 | 15    7   2 |  38   18  35 |
| 128   28    3 | 15    4   6 |   9    7  25 |
|  12    5    7 |  8    9   3 |   4   12   6 |
+---------------+-------------+--------------+
|  39    1   24 | 23    8   5 |   6  249   7 |
| 389    7    5 | 23    6   4 |  38  289   1 |
|   6   38   24 |  9    1   7 |   5  248  23 |
+---------------+-------------+--------------+


I believe “coloring” on 8's (r4c7 -> r8c7 -> r8c1 -> r9c2 -> r9c8) indicated that r8c8 could not equal 8.  The final configuration is as follows:

+---------------+-------------+--------------+
|  23   23    8 |  7    5   9 |   1    6   4 |
|   5    4    9 |  6    2   1 |   7    3   8 |
|   7    6    1 |  4    3   8 |   2    5   9 |
+---------------+-------------+--------------+
|   4    9    6 | 15    7   2 |  38   18  35 |
| 128   28    3 | 15    4   6 |   9    7  25 |
|  12    5    7 |  8    9   3 |   4   12   6 |
+---------------+-------------+--------------+
|  39    1   24 | 23    8   5 |   6  249   7 |
| 389    7    5 | 23    6   4 |  38   29   1 |
|   6   38   24 |  9    1   7 |   5  248  23 |
+---------------+-------------+--------------+

What method must be used to “logically” solve this puzzle?
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Victor



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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm - Sorry, I don't think your colouring is valid. True colouring chains require a conjugate (strong) link each time, but your second move from r8c7 to r8c1 isn't, for there are three 8s in the row. (Or, if you wanted to do a kite-type strong-weak-strong move, you've a link too many.) Also, a colouring chain needs an odd number of links, but yours has 4.

Code:
+---------------+-------------+--------------+
|  23   23    8 |  7    5   9 |   1    6   4 |
|   5    4    9 |  6    2   1 |   7    3   8 |
|   7    6    1 |  4    3   8 |   2    5   9 |
+---------------+-------------+--------------+
|   4    9    6 | 15    7   2 |  38   18  35 |
| 128   28*   3 | 15    4   6 |   9    7  25 |
|  12    5    7 |  8    9   3 |   4   12   6 |
+---------------+-------------+--------------+
|  39    1   24 | 23    8   5 |   6  249   7 |
| 389    7    5 | 23    6   4 |  38  289   1 |
|   6   38*  24 |  9    1   7 |   5  248  23*|
+---------------+-------------+--------------+

One method: use an XY-wing, which I've *d. One of the two 2s at the ends must be true, and so you can eliminate the 2 they both see, in r5c9.
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keith



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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paladin,

These Saturday puzzles are usually discussed on this site as "DB Puzzles". Your one is at

http://www.dailysudoku.com/sudoku/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2514

Keith
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Paladin



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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 3:43 pm    Post subject: Help, Please, with Solution Technique for a Difficult Puzzle Reply with quote

Thank you, Victor, for your help with "colouring" and your XY wing solution. Hopefully I can get this colouring technique down as I study your explanation.

Thank you, Keith, for your reference.

Paladin
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Victor



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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paladin, thanks for the thanks! Maybe worth reading Nataraj's comments in http://www.dailysudoku.com/sudoku/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2527&sid=f0d5432b811e95d057aa15ae00c0fa21

I'll repeat more or less waht he said anyway. Suppose you've two cells A = (2,3) & B = (2,8), with no instant connection. They both 'see' another cell with a 2 in it & so you'd like to find a chain connecting A & B, so that you could eliminate that other 2. The wrong way is to start by saying A = 2 and therefore ... , because even if that got you to B not equal to 2, well, so what? The right way to start is to say A <> 2, and try to find a chain that proves that now B = 2. All ordinary chains work in both directions, and so you'd then be guaranteed that one or other 2 is correct.

That's how I look at colouring chains - I just run along them looking at the digit of interest: false / true / false /true. . . until maybe I get to a point where the last one is a 'true' AND the start and endpoint both see another of the digits to be eliminated. (Some people use actual colours I think - hence the name.) These colouring chains use only conjugate (strong) links - every time there's only two of the digit in the relevant row/column/house. But most fancier chains use alternate strong and weak links - and are often given fancy names such as 'kite'.
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